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	<title>Comments on: Upgrade Sarge to Etch</title>
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		<title>By: StuP</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>StuP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DANGEROUS! Please do NOT follow these instructions. On irc (#debian), we are getting lots of people who have broken their boxes by following these instructions.

Please, instead, just follow the official release notes:

http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html

A lot of effort was put into the office upgrade instructions to make sure they work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DANGEROUS! Please do NOT follow these instructions. On irc (#debian), we are getting lots of people who have broken their boxes by following these instructions.</p>
<p>Please, instead, just follow the official release notes:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html</a></p>
<p>A lot of effort was put into the office upgrade instructions to make sure they work.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Holden</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 13:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html#comment-171</guid>
		<description>Tony, I got the warning about the running kernel image being removed. So I chickened out and ran &#039;apt-get -f install&#039; without any packages first. That upgraded a couple of things, and then I could install aptitude without removing my kernel image. Safer, I thinK!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony, I got the warning about the running kernel image being removed. So I chickened out and ran &#8216;apt-get -f install&#8217; without any packages first. That upgraded a couple of things, and then I could install aptitude without removing my kernel image. Safer, I thinK!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Lissner</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Lissner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 08:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I performed a remote upgrade from Sarge to Etch like you suggested on a lightly loaded server apache2 samba rsync and it worked OK. The only problem was at the &#039;# apt-get install aptitude&#039; stage it removed the running kernel and didn&#039;t replace it. Just check that you have a kernel installed before rebooting:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I performed a remote upgrade from Sarge to Etch like you suggested on a lightly loaded server apache2 samba rsync and it worked OK. The only problem was at the &#8216;# apt-get install aptitude&#8217; stage it removed the running kernel and didn&#8217;t replace it. Just check that you have a kernel installed before rebooting:)</p>
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		<title>By: randal</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 15:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>undebugger: you can use apt on the command line to specify a solution! the &#039;depends&#039; message is giving you a clue. you just have to give apt a little prodding in the right direction. refer oftenly to the apt-get manual page. also remember, going from sarge to etch you are upgrading X from the old XFree86 to Xorg, so it might be a little bumpy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>undebugger: you can use apt on the command line to specify a solution! the &#8216;depends&#8217; message is giving you a clue. you just have to give apt a little prodding in the right direction. refer oftenly to the apt-get manual page. also remember, going from sarge to etch you are upgrading X from the old XFree86 to Xorg, so it might be a little bumpy.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuriy Padlyak</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuriy Padlyak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much better is using Release Notes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much better is using Release Notes</p>
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		<title>By: undebugger</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>undebugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html#comment-167</guid>
		<description>I did exactly that (dist-upgrade), and what I have now is a total mess. Aptitude says &quot; depends on x11-common but x11-common won&#039;t be installed&quot; etc.etc.etc. For example, sylpheed crashes instantly (I suspect it could be inconsistent glib/gtk or something like that).

Now I plan to manually uninstall all the software except for the very base system and then install it incrementally. It&#039;s just a pain. If I knew better, I would do a clean etch install as well, preserving my /home and /usr/local. *angry*

What I cannot get, it is why the apt removed my old fonts I got used to? There can&#039;t be any binary dependencies in fonts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did exactly that (dist-upgrade), and what I have now is a total mess. Aptitude says &#8221; depends on x11-common but x11-common won&#8217;t be installed&#8221; etc.etc.etc. For example, sylpheed crashes instantly (I suspect it could be inconsistent glib/gtk or something like that).</p>
<p>Now I plan to manually uninstall all the software except for the very base system and then install it incrementally. It&#8217;s just a pain. If I knew better, I would do a clean etch install as well, preserving my /home and /usr/local. *angry*</p>
<p>What I cannot get, it is why the apt removed my old fonts I got used to? There can&#8217;t be any binary dependencies in fonts!</p>
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		<title>By: Olaf</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>Olaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when upgrading to etch, clamav will *disappear*!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when upgrading to etch, clamav will *disappear*!</p>
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		<title>By: Bakki Kudva</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Bakki Kudva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a dist-upgrade to testing from Sarge any my system got hosed. I did pretty much what you did and ended up with a spaghetti of unresolved dependencies. Finally re-installed but left my /home partition alone so most of my data was saved. However it is still a pain to install all the other apps I had from scratch. Also the now I seem to have problems in building various ruby gems for a Rails application because of gcc-4.1 - or rather because it is so strict many packages fail to compile. Still have a long ways to go to get it where it was with Sarge...which though was rock solid was so outdated that I had so many packages which needed to be updated. SO sort of a catch-22 situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a dist-upgrade to testing from Sarge any my system got hosed. I did pretty much what you did and ended up with a spaghetti of unresolved dependencies. Finally re-installed but left my /home partition alone so most of my data was saved. However it is still a pain to install all the other apps I had from scratch. Also the now I seem to have problems in building various ruby gems for a Rails application because of gcc-4.1 &#8211; or rather because it is so strict many packages fail to compile. Still have a long ways to go to get it where it was with Sarge&#8230;which though was rock solid was so outdated that I had so many packages which needed to be updated. SO sort of a catch-22 situation.</p>
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		<title>By: mattiasw</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>mattiasw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Upgrade went perfectly! Thanks.

I also tried upgrading the kernet to 2.6, however,then the xircom pcmcia network card stopped work, so I will continue to use the 2.4 kernel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upgrade went perfectly! Thanks.</p>
<p>I also tried upgrading the kernet to 2.6, however,then the xircom pcmcia network card stopped work, so I will continue to use the 2.4 kernel.</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 21:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sam

If you are using Custom kernel you need to be very careful before upgrading take complete image backup and then do or if you have test system test first and then go for live.

Hope this helps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sam</p>
<p>If you are using Custom kernel you need to be very careful before upgrading take complete image backup and then do or if you have test system test first and then go for live.</p>
<p>Hope this helps</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 21:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 2.6.8 custom kernel. I do not use udev. Will I be ok to upgrade sarge to etch without having to update my kernel or go udev? Also do I need to upgrade aptitude first?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 2.6.8 custom kernel. I do not use udev. Will I be ok to upgrade sarge to etch without having to update my kernel or go udev? Also do I need to upgrade aptitude first?</p>
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		<title>By: David Richfield</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>David Richfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it better to point sources.list at &quot;etch&quot; instead of &quot;testing&quot;?  After all, if you point to &quot;testing&quot;, you get an unexpected, unplanned upgrade when etch becomes stable...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it better to point sources.list at &#8220;etch&#8221; instead of &#8220;testing&#8221;?  After all, if you point to &#8220;testing&#8221;, you get an unexpected, unplanned upgrade when etch becomes stable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nicola</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dist-upgrading - the recommended way, with aptitude - broke my X, finally had to re-install from scratch.
Very simple, indeed - maybe for a debian guru ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dist-upgrading &#8211; the recommended way, with aptitude &#8211; broke my X, finally had to re-install from scratch.<br />
Very simple, indeed &#8211; maybe for a debian guru &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you have to check the volatile source list if they have any updates for etch otherwise definitely it will not update clamav</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you have to check the volatile source list if they have any updates for etch otherwise definitely it will not update clamav</p>
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		<title>By: Hasso</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>Hasso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html#comment-158</guid>
		<description>OK, maybe one should ask better: how to get updates for clamav as there is no volatile for etch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, maybe one should ask better: how to get updates for clamav as there is no volatile for etch?</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hasso,

If you install it from third party source list it doesn&#039;t upgrade and some of the applications will work and some of them doesn&#039;t

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hasso,</p>
<p>If you install it from third party source list it doesn&#8217;t upgrade and some of the applications will work and some of them doesn&#8217;t</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Hasso</title>
		<link>http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-sarge-to-etch.html/comment-page-1#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Hasso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about clamav - I have it now from volatile. What happens to clamav when I get it from etch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about clamav &#8211; I have it now from volatile. What happens to clamav when I get it from etch?</p>
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